The princess problem LLCE 2019
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Élisa.D
Jennifer D
camille guiot
Mathilde S
lola0609
Jeanne Dejoye
J.Roubaud
Anaïs
Julien dessenne
arnaudino
Jillian lebhar
Aleksander
Julie.millet
MarineB
Baptiste.M
GabrielleChapat
Diane.htr
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Re: The princess problem LLCE 2019
J.Roubaud a écrit:#no commentJillian lebhar a écrit:do you think that the new versions are worse or better than the old versions ?
Baptiste.M- Messages : 16
Date d'inscription : 28/09/2019
Age : 20
Re: The princess problem LLCE 2019
I think the parents of the old generation don't have the same methods as today because the technology growing and the parents try to make the better, it's not easy for allJillian lebhar a écrit:do you think that the new versions are worse or better than the old versions ?
camille guiot- Messages : 4
Date d'inscription : 30/09/2019
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watch out, we shouldn't show imperfections as something particular, but like something normal in our lifeBaptiste.M a écrit:They should create character with more imperfection, like this it's now possible and less dangerous to identifie ourself to theirJ.Roubaud a écrit:and there you create the problems you can find on instagramevedeconynck a écrit:Jillian lebhar a écrit:the fairytales is useful for the developpement
Useful for what ? I think little girls don't accept themselves anymore because they always want to be someone else and compare themselves to the others everytime
J.Roubaud- Messages : 15
Date d'inscription : 30/09/2019
Re: The princess problem LLCE 2019
Anaïs a écrit:Jillian lebhar a écrit:do you think that the new versions are worse or better than the old versions ?
I prefer the old version because I was a children at that time, it was my childhood. Oksana
the old version there are plenty of stereotypes
Jillian lebhar- Messages : 14
Date d'inscription : 30/09/2019
Re: The princess problem LLCE 2019
Jeanne Dejoye a écrit:Baptiste.M a écrit:Admin a écrit:I have a 4 year old little girl, so the question is important for me!
I get really angry when every one tells my daughter that she is a princess, when there are so many cool things about her!
It reminds me of this picture that I put in the article, it's funny, but it's actually really true! Do you think that there are toys 'for boys' and toys 'for girls'? Did you play with gendered toys as children?
I was playing with lego so here is no gender
its very important that the children can play with all the toys .There are no toys only for girls or for boys . Its important that the children find their identity.
The toys are for every children, so the people who create the toys should stop stereotyping by using the colour blue for boy's toys and pink for girl's toys.
Julie.millet- Messages : 6
Date d'inscription : 25/09/2019
Re: The princess problem LLCE 2019
Jillian lebhar a écrit:Anaïs a écrit:Jillian lebhar a écrit:do you think that the new versions are worse or better than the old versions ?
I prefer the old version because I was a children at that time, it was my childhood. Oksana
the old version there are plenty of stereotypes
Yes but they are authentics
Anaïs- Messages : 8
Date d'inscription : 28/09/2019
Re: The princess problem LLCE 2019
I think all children of our generation thought old fairytale are better than nowadays because more the years pass, more the fair disappearsAnaïs a écrit:Jillian lebhar a écrit:do you think that the new versions are worse or better than the old versions ?
I prefer the old version because I was a children at that time, it was my childhood. Oksana
arnaudino- Messages : 13
Date d'inscription : 30/09/2019
Re: The princess problem LLCE 2019
Yohan a écrit:It's children who ask parents to have cellphones and parents accept 'cause they want to don't unpleasant at children...Aleksander a écrit:
It's because of parents giving phones and computers to very young kids. It's not the children's fault
But parents have to think. They wouldn't give for example alcohol for them, even if they asked them. It's the parents' responsability to choose what is good and what is bad for their kids.
Aleksander- Messages : 13
Date d'inscription : 30/09/2019
Re: The princess problem LLCE 2019
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I love both but the new ones are trying to adapt them to the new mentality whereas the old ones are very sexist, full of stereotyps and all you want but they are classics
Jillian lebhar a écrit:do you think that the new versions are worse or better than the old versions ?
I love both but the new ones are trying to adapt them to the new mentality whereas the old ones are very sexist, full of stereotyps and all you want but they are classics
Diane.htr- Messages : 9
Date d'inscription : 29/09/2019
Re: The princess problem LLCE 2019
Yes, for that, I'm agree. It's for that we have children who don't know the valor of the money. But all buy a phone at 1200€ who have not 500€. But all buy so patrons do a bigger price of beforeJulien dessenne a écrit:
yes but is the education of children, they want all they see but they don't have all. the parents must educate their children
Yohan- Messages : 8
Date d'inscription : 29/09/2019
Re: The princess problem LLCE 2019
In your opinion, the new generation will stay like that during years ?Yohan a écrit:Yes, i'm agree, we are the beginning of this new generation, we are enter this 2 generations.J.Roubaud a écrit:we are a bit in this generationYohan a écrit:
It's children who ask parents to have cellphones and parents accept 'cause they want to don't unpleasant at children...
Élisa.D- Messages : 7
Date d'inscription : 28/09/2019
Re: The princess problem LLCE 2019
authentics, and with a real moral in additionAnaïs a écrit:Jillian lebhar a écrit:Anaïs a écrit:Jillian lebhar a écrit:do you think that the new versions are worse or better than the old versions ?
I prefer the old version because I was a children at that time, it was my childhood. Oksana
the old version there are plenty of stereotypes
Yes but they are authentics
Baptiste.M- Messages : 16
Date d'inscription : 28/09/2019
Age : 20
Re: The princess problem LLCE 2019
i am the toys producer and i agree , i will change the toys colourJulie.millet a écrit:Jeanne Dejoye a écrit:Baptiste.M a écrit:Admin a écrit:I have a 4 year old little girl, so the question is important for me!
I get really angry when every one tells my daughter that she is a princess, when there are so many cool things about her!
It reminds me of this picture that I put in the article, it's funny, but it's actually really true! Do you think that there are toys 'for boys' and toys 'for girls'? Did you play with gendered toys as children?
I was playing with lego so here is no gender
its very important that the children can play with all the toys .There are no toys only for girls or for boys . Its important that the children find their identity.
The toys are for every children, so the people who create the toys should stop stereotyping by using the colour blue for boy's toys and pink for girl's toys.
JuliennnC- Messages : 6
Date d'inscription : 29/09/2019
Re: The princess problem LLCE 2019
JuliennnC a écrit:could you comment plz? i want to knowJ.Roubaud a écrit:#no commentJillian lebhar a écrit:do you think that the new versions are worse or better than the old versions ?
i think that the new stories are better, they are following a different script than the old ones( moderner)
GabrielleChapat- Messages : 16
Date d'inscription : 29/09/2019
Re: The princess problem LLCE 2019
It depend of your generation too.arnaudino a écrit:I think all children of our generation thought old fairytale are better than nowadays because more the years pass, more the fair disappearsAnaïs a écrit:Jillian lebhar a écrit:do you think that the new versions are worse or better than the old versions ?
I prefer the old version because I was a children at that time, it was my childhood. Oksana
If you are older, you prefer the older one but the younger prefer the new one
Ewen- Messages : 3
Date d'inscription : 30/09/2019
Re: The princess problem LLCE 2019
Anaïs a écrit:Jillian lebhar a écrit:Anaïs a écrit:Jillian lebhar a écrit:do you think that the new versions are worse or better than the old versions ?
I prefer the old version because I was a children at that time, it was my childhood. Oksana
the old version there are plenty of stereotypes
Yes but they are authentics
each fairy tale is an adaptation of stories ( grimm anderson ...) so none are really autentic
Jillian lebhar- Messages : 14
Date d'inscription : 30/09/2019
Re: The princess problem LLCE 2019
JuliennnC a écrit:i am the toys producer and i agree , i will change the toys colourJulie.millet a écrit:Jeanne Dejoye a écrit:Baptiste.M a écrit:Admin a écrit:I have a 4 year old little girl, so the question is important for me!
I get really angry when every one tells my daughter that she is a princess, when there are so many cool things about her!
It reminds me of this picture that I put in the article, it's funny, but it's actually really true! Do you think that there are toys 'for boys' and toys 'for girls'? Did you play with gendered toys as children?
I was playing with lego so here is no gender
its very important that the children can play with all the toys .There are no toys only for girls or for boys . Its important that the children find their identity.
The toys are for every children, so the people who create the toys should stop stereotyping by using the colour blue for boy's toys and pink for girl's toys.
Julie.millet- Messages : 6
Date d'inscription : 25/09/2019
Re: The princess problem LLCE 2019
Yohan a écrit:It's children who ask parents to have cellphones and parents accept 'cause they want to don't unpleasant at children...Aleksander a écrit:
It's because of parents giving phones and computers to very young kids. It's not the children's fault
Yes but parents should say no ! It's not because their children absolutly want's a phone, a computer or a videogame that parents must yield. They must say "no" when it's necessary for the sake of their children.
evedeconynck- Messages : 5
Date d'inscription : 29/09/2019
Re: The princess problem LLCE 2019
GabrielleChapat a écrit:JuliennnC a écrit:could you comment plz? i want to knowJ.Roubaud a écrit:#no commentJillian lebhar a écrit:do you think that the new versions are worse or better than the old versions ?
i think that the new stories are better, they are following a different script than the old ones( moderner)
Of course but you can't forget the classics even if they are bad in some kinds
Diane.htr- Messages : 9
Date d'inscription : 29/09/2019
Re: The princess problem LLCE 2019
GabrielleChapat a écrit:JuliennnC a écrit:could you comment plz? i want to knowJ.Roubaud a écrit:#no commentJillian lebhar a écrit:do you think that the new versions are worse or better than the old versions ?
i think that the new stories are better, they are following a different script than the old ones( moderner)
oh, i thing " more modern" sounds better sorry
GabrielleChapat- Messages : 16
Date d'inscription : 29/09/2019
Re: The princess problem LLCE 2019
For alcohol it's normal, you can't drink until you have 18, but for cellphone, there no limit age for that .Aleksander a écrit:Yohan a écrit:It's children who ask parents to have cellphones and parents accept 'cause they want to don't unpleasant at children...Aleksander a écrit:
It's because of parents giving phones and computers to very young kids. It's not the children's fault
But parents have to think. They wouldn't give for example alcohol for them, even if they asked them. It's the parents' responsability to choose what is good and what is bad for their kids.
J.Roubaud- Messages : 15
Date d'inscription : 30/09/2019
Re: The princess problem LLCE 2019
you're wrong i think not at all of the new generation prefer the new one because if they are brothers or sisters older than him is possible for him to watch what their brothers or sisters watch toEwen a écrit:It depend of your generation too.arnaudino a écrit:I think all children of our generation thought old fairytale are better than nowadays because more the years pass, more the fair disappearsAnaïs a écrit:Jillian lebhar a écrit:do you think that the new versions are worse or better than the old versions ?
I prefer the old version because I was a children at that time, it was my childhood. Oksana
If you are older, you prefer the older one but the younger prefer the new one
arnaudino- Messages : 13
Date d'inscription : 30/09/2019
Re: The princess problem LLCE 2019
evedeconynck a écrit:Yohan a écrit:
It's children who ask parents to have cellphones and parents accept 'cause they want to don't unpleasant at children...
Yes but parents should say no ! It's not because their children absolutly want's a phone, a computer or a videogame that parents must yield. They must say "no" when it's necessary for the sake of their children.
They can't say not 'cause they like children and don't want to have a cry children.
Yohan- Messages : 8
Date d'inscription : 29/09/2019
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